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"andrea mitchell reports." tomorrow, secretary of state mike pompeo joining me to talk about the high-stakes negotiations are north korea and the u.n. meetings. coming u nee ing up next week. i'll be in new york for that. craig melvin is up next. craig, tomorrow morning on "today," you've got the bidens here for their cancer program and we'll of course take some of that as well to share with our viewers. >> thank you, andrea. i'm headed your way. i'll see you in d.c. tomorrow. good afternoon to you. for now, craig melvin, msnbc news headquarters in new york city. supreme stalemate. the committee says the woman who's accusing supreme court nominee kavanaugh of sexual assault when they were in high school has 21 hours to decide whether she will testify. so will she or won't she. if she does what will that hearing look like? also, defending kavanaugh. i'll talk to a woman who is working to make sure brett kavanaugh gets confirmed. she has a unique perspective. she's a former federal clerk for
justice clarence thomas who is confirmed despite sexual harassment accusations. it's been a year since hurricane maria devastated puerto rico. there are still lots of people without electricity there. nbc spent some time with people who are walking on the ground. we'll look at what went wrong and what we can learn from it. but we start -- we start with the supreme stalemate. senate judiciary committee chairman chuck grassley has given christine blasey ford until 10:00 a.m. tomorrow if she will testify monday. a public hearing, a private hearing, a public staff interview or a private staff interview. professor ford's attorney issuing a statement that reads, in part, quote, the committee's stated plan to move forward with the hearing, that has only two witnesses, is not a fair or good faith investigation. there are multiple witnesses
whose names have appeared publicly and who should be included in any proed seeing. the rush to a hearing is unnecessary and contrary to the committee, discovering the truth. judge kavanaugh left his home this morning headed to the white house. he was there for roughly 3 1/2 hours. nbc's peter alexander is at the white house. peter, i understand that judge kavanaugh just left moments ago. you've also got some new reporting on precisely how the judge has been spending his time there. >> that's exactly right. we did see judge kavanaugh within the last five minutes getting into his motorcade and departing the white house complex. no specific details about how he spent this day. but i can give you some new reporting about how he has spent some of this week. at least three of the last four days, including on tuesday i'm told by a person who is involved in kavanaugh's confirmation process. that he was behind closed doors for about two hours with a series of white house senior staffers. among them, senior press secretary sarah sanders, bill
shine, the white house counsel don mcgahn as well. where kavanaugh was grilled about his past, his dating life and about christine blase ford's accusations against him. how will he present himself at what's scheduled to be this contentious hearing? on monday, the source says he's got to make the decisions himself. they say it's really in the nominee's hands. it is his reputation. he knows all the facts. they insist that the white house is, in effect, brett kavanaugh's sounding board right now. >> today was supposed to be the day that the committee would have voted judge kavanaugh out of the judiciary committee hearing. what's your sense, peter? what's your sense from your sources there at the white house and perhaps even on the hill about this delay? >> well, what we're hearing from the hill right now, hat tip to
my colleague on capitol hill kacie hunt sharing some new information. a new letter that has been sent out to the senate judiciary hearing committee. all of them former prosecutors on state attorneys general. they send a letter, i should be clear, to the white house. arguing for the need for an fbi background check investigation. it's only the president who can ask for that investigation to take place. they insist the fbi should investigate and assess reports of medical evidence and the polygraph test. also to interview additional witnesses beyond just brett kavanaugh and blasey ford here. saying, also abandoned the precedent set when he asked the fbi to investigate after anita hill raised questions about judge thomas in 1991. this new letter has been signed by a series of democrats. among them, kamala harris, amy
chl chloebuchar. all of whom are familiar with the legal process. as one legal source raised the question, the question of brett kavanaugh would be in effect, if you were a judge and they walked into your courtroom and said we'll have two people testify, a he said/she said, but no other witnesses, would you accept that hearing? >> peter alexander from the white house for us. peter, thank you. let's bring in msnbc legal analyst and former assistant u.s. attorney mimi roker is here. so is "washington post" columnist dana milbank. and curt bardel. a former spokesperson for the house oversight and government committee. and senator olympia snowe. big thanks to all of you. come monday morning, do you surmise we will have a public hearing where we hear from judge kavanaugh and dr. ford? >> look, i think politics is going to dictate that we will.
even though i don't think that's what should happen. i think at the end of the day this woman who has been very courageous, somewhat unwillingly pushed into being revealed publicly. i think she may decide that even though this is not a fair process and it should not go forward the way that it is. let me be very clear. but, you know, the train is leaving the station it seems. and i do think that she is not going to at this point now that she has come forward going to let this die a quiet death without testifying. if i could just make a point. >> sure. >> about what we're talking about here. every single federal employee, myself included, anyone who works for the u.s. government in these certain level positions, has these background investigations. they're called background for a reason. you know, people are saying this was so long ago, 35. background, you go back into someone's life. in part because you don't want someone to be susceptible to blackmail or something when they're in one of these
positions. every federal employee gets that reupped every five years. not judges. because they are lifetime appointments. so that means this is the one chance to figure out what we can about brett kavanaugh and so to say we don't have time to do that, to do an investigation that could take a matter of a week or two when we're talking about a lifetime appointment, which is different from every other federal employee who has these background investigations. we all had to have our backgrounds dug into every five years for a reason. because things come up over time. so it's just absolutely false and hypocritical for people to say that we don't have time and that this is too old to look into. that's what they do in background investigations. >> dana, it would seem as if republican senators specifically senator grassley at this point, they're making this about deadlines. dr. ford being given this 10:00 a.m. deadline tomorrow to face
the committee on monday. what do you make of that? why the deadlines? why not allow the time for this issue to be properly investigated? >> well, you know, we could be having a discussion about the need to move this through at an ex peditious pace if chuck grassley and mcconnell and their fellow republicans had not just sat there for 293 days without giving merrick garland so much as an interview let alone a hearing. of course it's absurd on its face for the process to say this needs to be moved through. they have a political imperative to move this through. and to have as little of this come out as possible. they would very much like dr. ford not to have appeared in the first place and to go away. if they lose their nominee at this point, there's not going to be another one before the election. a senate election that is not likely to go to the democrats but possibly could. you're seeing this huge backlash building. particularly among women.
you have senator heller, very vulnerable nevada reportedly calling this a hiccup. republicans, if they're going to describe this sort of thing as a hiccup are going to be burped out of office fairly quickly. >> republicans have been saying dr. ford's reluctance to appear at a hearing is to their political advantage. you wrote this message. it caught our attention. it's up on the screen for ou veers at home. it's up on the screen for our viewers at home. this type of congressional hearing is effectively rigged against ford. it seems that both she and her lawyer have already realized this. the structure of congressional hearings is always biased toward the members. how so? >> i spent years working at the congressional oversight committee choreographing congressional hearings. the way it works is members get to just ask whatever question
they want. the witness has no real cross examination like in a court of law. the witness has no opportunity to even ask a question of the senator who's asking them. they're expected to sit there and just answer without any context. we've seen these hearings where members of congress sit there and they just filibuster for minutes, opine, introducing random conspiracy theories that the witness never had a chance to adhere to. any time the witness deviates from what the senator wants to hear, you hear the senator saying excuse me, can you please just answer yes or no, because i'm short on time. the way the whole thing is, is rigged against the witness. there's no reason why dr. ford should put herself in this situation when we already know these senators have made up their mind. one of the major advisers to grassley tweeted last night he wants to move forward with the confirmation unfazed and determined. the person in charge of nominations for grassley, they've already made up their mind. there's nobody qualified in the senate judiciary committee to investigate sexual harassment and sexual misconduct. >> mimi, i want to call our
audience's attention to your tweet this morning. and i think peter alexander was alluding to this tweet. you tweeted that you wish judge kavanaugh had a twitter account because you had one question for him. i want to read this for viewers and listeners. if a lawyer walked into your federal courtroom and said they were putting on two witnesses for a hearing and had done no other investigation or made any attempt to find any facts, what would you say? what do you surmise his response would be? >> he would say you're doing a shoddy job. you're not worthy of, you know, being in federal court and presenting a case this way. and, you know, i know that the answer's going to be, well, this isn't a criminal proceeding, we're not in court. doesn't matter. that's not the point. the point is we are talking about, first of all, a supposedly truth finding function. i understand this is political and maybe these hearings are not set up that way. i'm responding to what republicans and certainly what i think brett kavanaugh would say,
which is i want the truth. the truth is, i didn't do this. if you want the truth, this is not the way to get at it. you don't throw two witnesses up there to say something without any outside investigation any way to test their credibility, any analysis of other witnesses who we already identified. this isn't a matter of it being too hard. the point is we are not talking about any job here. we're talking about a supreme court justice. kavanaugh knows how to find facts. he of all people, if he did not do this, then the truth should come out. the way to do this is to investigate and let this be a serious fact-finding mission. and the fact that he will not let that happen, that he is not himself asking for it, i think is very telling. >> kirk, if it becomes apparent here in the next, i mean, it would have to be the next few hours according to senator grassley's deadline, if it becomes apparent that dr. ed fo
is going to be testifying come monday morning, what do you think the republicans would do? do you think that they would dump kavanaugh and move on to the next person or that list? or do you think they are -- they're committed at this point, that they have to now proceed with this public hearing come monday? >> oh, they'll proceed with this hearing. again, because the hearing's constructed to their advantage, just review the testimonies from the anita hill/clarence thomas hearing. that's the blueprint. some republicans on committee today were there in 1991. they will ask her questions about, well, was she drinking at all at this party. did she ever participate in underage drinking? what was her behavior? they'll make her the center of focus and draw as much scrutiny upon her character as possible just like they did to anita hill in 1991. >> mimi, really quickly here, dr. ford and her lawyers, what sort of conversations are they having now? how are they weighing the pros
and the cons? >> it's hard because on the one hand what she should be doing is decide weathering to testify and preparing in the case that she does. that is what brett kavanaugh's doing at the white house. we all know he's been there for hours with a professional team preparing. she is literally running for her life though. it's hard to imagine how she has time to be sitting in a calm manner andeni bpreparing to tes when she's had to move her family and deal with death threats. i know this is a rigged process, but i've come this far and i'm going to let my story now be swept under the rug. or am i going to, you know, sort of see this through as best i can. recognizing that a lot of people do support her. >> mimi, thank you. kirk, thank you. mr. milbank, thank you. a developing story we continue to follow. multiple fatalities. multiple injuries. a workplace shooting that happened in aberdeen, maryland.
the shooting happened just after 9 a.m. at a rite-aid distribution center 35 miles northeast of baltimore. the sole suspect, a woman, is in custody. this incident coming just a day after another workplace shooting in middleton, wisconsin, left four people hurt. nbc's justice correspondent pete williams bringing us up to speed now on this shooting in maryland. pete what do we know? >> well, we're trying to put some specificity to numbers, to this word multiple. what we believe is, this is again subject to change, this is just the best information we have at this point that about eight people were shot in all. we think there were three or four fatalities. and the rest of the people were wounded including the person who did the shooting accord to the sheriff who we've been told by law enforcement officials is a woman. the sheriff says whoever carried this crime out used a handgun. it started about 9:00 this
morning that the rite-aid distribution center. the word was out almost immediately. there was an active shooter. people sending tweets to loved ones saying they were hide, asking them to take care of their loved ones if they couldn't get out. eventually, the police were able to get there. they say they were there on scene within five minutes and began to storm the building and find the shooter. now, the sheriff says that the law enforcement people never fired a single shot. and if that's the case that would indicate that the woman who did the shooting turned the gun on herself. we don't know if that's the case. but that is a good supposition based on the facts that we have so far. several questions of course we don't know. what is her connection to this rite-aid distribution center. is she a former employee? did she have some connection to people who worked there? that appeared to be the case. that's something the authorities are trying to run down now. again, the handgun, we'll try to
find out whether it was purchased legally, how she got a hold of it. but that's the best information we have at this point. >> our justice correspondent pete williams there in the washington, d.c. -- on this most recent workplace shooting this time in aberdeen, maryland. pete, thank you. we'll have much more on the supreme court fight, including defending kavanaugh. a former federal clerk for justice clarence thomas who supports kavanaugh's confirmation is standing by. i'll talk to her right after this. also, unprotected. a new report looking at why the president feels especially vulnerable inside the white house right now. and powerless, one year after hurricane maria, what life is like for people in puerto rico. many of whom are still dealing with the devastation. george woke up in pain.
"the washington post," new reporting today about how president trump feels angry, vulnerable. things are only getting worse now that the second supreme court nominee, brett kavanaugh, that nomination would appear to be in jeopardy to some. the supreme court of course seemed to be one of the easier victories for this president. brett stevens, a "new york times" columnist, also an msnbc political contributor. let's start there, judge kavanaugh, professor ford. what do you think happened tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., the
deadline imposed by senator grassley? what do you think happened come monday morning? >> well, let me look at my crystal ball. i have no idea. i think ford would be wise to testify. this is going to be her one chance to make an impression on the american people. she was a reluctant witness. she did volunteer her name. she did volunteer to be a witness. it's true, you're always in a tough position in a high pressure swell situations like . when you're telling the truth, people sense it, people know it. i remember listening to peter strzok talk to a senate committee not so long ago. he changed the national conversation about his case. the problem she faces is if she now walks away from testimony after having said she will testify, she does two things. she creates an impression that
this is really political. it's part of delaying the process. i think it's fundamentally unfair to judge kavanaugh who has to be able to not only deny the allegation but have some sense of what the allegation is he's trying to disprove. >> do you think it's political? >> we don't know. i wish people would stop believing i believe dr. ford or i believe judge kavanaugh. the truth is none of us know, not one of us in this room or anyone that we've heard of except those two individuals and maybe mark judge knows what happened 36 years ago allegedly in that room in maryland. >> is there a possibility, brett, i know this isn't going to be a popular opinion or theory, isn't there a possibility they could both be telling the truth? >> no, i don't believe that. >> not at all? you don't think maybe the judge had had so much to drink that he doesn't recall the incident? >> you know, an essayist for the atlantic has a beautiful piece recalling her experience of a young man who tried to rape her.
and he remembers the events vividly every bit as much as she does. there was also a very good op-ed in "the new york times" that points out draum matraumatic me like this by their almost very biological nature tend to stick more deeply in our minds than other memories. i might not remember where i put my cell phone in the morning, but i happen things that happened when i was 15 or 16 that were very vivid. i think either dr. ford is telling the absolute truth or i think this is a fabrication. >> alabama senate candidate roy moore who of course was accused himself of sexual misconduct, he is now providing some advice to republicans. here's what he said. >> it's so obvious that these tactics are used just days before a very important event like a confirmation. it's right in the midst of confirmation hearing. but these come up right before an election or confirmation and
i think republicans need to take a stand. >> it would not seem to be a good day when roy moore is offering advice. >> when roy moore is defending you, it's almost proof that you're guilty. i don't want to say that about kavanaugh but i don't think he's helping the judge. there are two very different cases. you had multiple allegations against judge moore. those allegations were credible. this is one that you're talking about with judge kavanaugh, one case in which there are potentially -- or rather three witnesses. roy moore would do himself and the world a favor for remaining quiet, a quiet private individual for the rest of his life. >> brett stevens, always enjoy your writing. do come back. thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> defending kavanaugh. i'll talk to a woman from a conservative group pushing
kavanaugh's nomination. she has a unique perspective. she used to be a clerk for justice clarence thomas who was confirmed after facing sexual harassment allegations himself. we are keeping a close eye right now on capitol hill. this is a live look at capitol hill. two democratic senators just received a letter from graduates of kavanaugh's accuser's high school. we're going to hear the claims from those alumni up next.
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just a few moments ago, lawmakers on capitol hill and alumni of the school rallied in support of dr. christine blasey ford. >> this letter is signed by women. there are millions more who want to be heard on this issue. i believe dr. ford because she's tell egg the truth. and you know it by her story. you know it by the fact that she told her therapist five years ago. it was documented at the time. we have the therapist notes. she told her husband. this is a trauma she's been dealing with her whole life. she doesn't want to be in a bedroom that doesn't have two doors. >> she is not being treated
fairly. there's absolutely no question about that. and women like dr. ford who come forward very bravely to tell her story which, by the way, is very credible, and i believe her, need to be supported. >> don't mess with the alumni of the holten arms school but most importantly don't mess with survivors. because this is not 1991. and america has their back. >> i'm joined now by our guest who was in the room for kavanaugh's initial hearing. she is also chief counsel and policy director for the judicial crisis network. the network just launched a $1.5 million ad campaign in support of brett kavanaugh. she also for the purposes of this conversation clerked for justice clarence thomas. thank you for your time, karen. >> great to be here. >> brett kavanaugh we should note here has categorically denied these allegations. wouldn't an fbi investigation into these accusations ahead of any testimony only help clear his name? >> well, the problem is the fbi,
as it says, has already completed its investigation. right now what we need is the senate to be able to make the judgment call and they have every opportunity the fbi has. they can call the witnesses and they've done so and i hope we'll have an opportunity to hear dr. ford testify. they're trying to make this hearing comfortable for her, whether it's closed order open or by the phone or in california or here. they have this opportunity. she would be under penalty of perjury. and so would judge kavanaugh. that's really in the senate's hands now. because the fbi, the purpose of the fbi is to gather the information. they don't make judgment calls in terms of credibility, plausibility, significant. that's always handed over to the white house and the senators in their joint constitutional role to do the advice and consent for a nominee. >> you were not in the room when this alleged event was said to have happened back in the '80s more than three decades ago. isn't it possible that christine
blasey ford is telling truth here? >> the experience she described sounds awful. i think also the evidence points very clearly to the fact it was not brett kavanaugh. i will have to hear the testimony of both to be able to judge. but -- >> what evidence? >> well, we have decades worth of women who have known him. all the women who knew him at the time say this is not described, the kind of character of the person we know. some women who dated him said no, this is the opposite of the kind of person that i knew brett kavanaugh to be. you've got his uneqiuivocal denial. he's gone through six different background checks. as your former guest was saying, this isn't something where, you know, okay there's a pattern here. not at all. this is someone who never -- never was there a whisper of misconduct. it does not fit with the brett kavanaugh we have seen through this whole very public and very
contentious procedure. so i'm looking forward to monday. i hope we'll get an opportunity for them both to discuss this and hopefully the senators will get some more feedback so they'll know how to do their advice and consent. >> this is what a friend of professor ford said about her yesterday, take a listen. >> she's not someone who makes things up. this was just a tremendously difficult decision for her. both because of the nature of her experience and how private she's kept that for so many years. >> why would a woman whose been largely apolitically most of her life, why would she come forward? why would she make this up for political gain? does that pass the smell test to you? >> i didn't say she made it up. the real question here is she didn't come forward wanting to could this. i think we all saw. there were leaks. she wanted to remain confidential. if senator feinstein had
followed the proper procedures, she could have remained confidential. there were multiple opportunities either to turn this over to the fbi earlier and have they question her. i feel horrible for the threats and things she has experienced. that should be utterly condemned. i'm sure judge kavanaugh has also experienced threats in his capacity as well on all sides. senator collins, all of that should be condemned. if this had been done confidentially as there were many opportunities to do previously in the process, she could have been spared that. what we saw is the senate republicans are treating her with a lot more credibility than senator feinstein did. senator feinstein took six weeks and did nothing. within 24 hours of this becoming public. and her lawyers actually calling for a hearing. senator grassley arranged for one. this is something that didn't have to be this way. i think it was clearly the senate democrats or their aides somehow because they were the only ones who had the information who leaked this to the press and it's a shame because she's being used as a political football here and
that's not right. >> you clerked for justice thomas whose name is going to forever be connected to anita hill. is there not a concern on your part that even if brett kavanaugh is confirmed, that his name is going to forever be connected to professor ford's if there is not -- go ahead. >> i think that's exactly right. that's the reason the -- this should have been looked at confidentially by the judiciary committee as per other things. for both of their privacy and maintaining both of their reputations. i agree. i think it's -- you can't unring that bell. and it's unfair to make -- to simply make an allegation and leave someone out to dry who has given so much of his life in public service, is a wonderful husband, father, and deserves the chance to be able to clear his name at this point. i think that's exactly democrat's strategy. they've said from the beginning they'll do everything they can to block this nomination. i think their strategy was to defeat him and if not defeat,
delay. if not delay, discredit him. they're hoping even if he gets confirmed he has an asterisks after his name because of these allegationings. >> you think all of this is political? >> absolutely, that's what the democrats have been treating it like. if senator feinstein thought the allegations were serious and credible and relevant, why would she have not done something about it? again, there are so many confidential opportunities to do that that would have respected the privacy. she had before the hearings ace confidential section to the hearings from what democrats, the rest of them on the committee have said, they also had the information for over a week before it broke. they had opportunities to ask more questions, to try to supplement the record and look into it at that point. they chose not to do so. instead, held this until leaking it at the very opportune political moment for them. that's very discouraging and cynical on their part. >> we'll leave it there, carey, thank you. flood threat. the storm is weaker, it has moved on, but serious danger
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safe. thank you for giving us a bit of your time. the president yesterday talking about recovery. talking about the cost of the recovery. here, things are about to get much worse for people. craig. >> mariana atencio there in nichols, south carolina, entire town under water. meanwhile, one year ago, one year ago today, hurricane maria devastated puerto rico and people there are still struggling to recover. an estimated 3,000 people were killed as a result of the storm and conditions afterwards. it caused some $90 billion in damages. it wiped out power for months. and the economy on the island has yet to fully recover. as thousands of small businesses have closed. many of the people have left that island for good. nbc's gabe gutierrez spent weeks on the ground after the storm roared ashore. in the aftermath, he has been down multiple times over the past year. what is life like right now on the island?
>> they bounce back quite a bit. a lot of businesses are closed. there are still a few people without power despite the government saying that 100% of power had been restored to customers. we spoke with one person. he still doesn't have power. the ability to run his businesses, his restaurant, because of a recently installed fema generator. some people say it could take a long, long time, years really to fully recover from this. >> you spoke to one official many blamed for the power failures on the island. >> his bore the brunt of the criticism. his name is ricardo ramos. he was the head of the puerto rico power electric authority. he was the one who signed off on that controversial contract with whitefish energy, the small montana company, a warded that contract of up to $300 million to help repair the electrical grid. he, in hindsight, thinks that he
would do it again. i asked him directly. he also says that -- he also blames dirty politics for why he had to resign in the months after the storm. take a listen. do you think that the trump administration failed puerto rico? >> yes, certainly. >> how so? >> well, i believe that help was late in arriving. i believed that the fact that the mistrust and, again, this is -- it's a shared responsibility. the emergency became secondary to politics. so it was politics, politics, politics. and the emergency was secondary. >> you think this got political while there still needed to be -- there was work to be done? >> i was called to the house of representatives and to the senate in the middle of the restoration. certainly got political. talk to people who know anything, nothing, about restoration, trying to lecture me on what our transmission
restoration is. after more than 30 years working in this industry. complete waste of time. >> craig, you know, after listening to that, he's still frustrated. he's still angry he was called before congress and grilled, in his words, lectured by some politicians he feels didn't know what they were talking about. he does not think that the whitefish contract was a bad idea. he says that in the end, because it was scrapped it cost taxpayers more and power took longer to be restored because of that. the white house, i should point out, this morning put out this list of talking points, saying it has been a historic recovery and the president still stands by that the federal government was successful in this. >> gabe gutierrez. thank you. there's a new documentary gabe's been working on. nightly news presents powerless, puerto rico's struggle after hurricane maria. it's a must watch. it's on amazon fire, it's on apple tv. gabe, thank you so much for all of your work there on puerto rico over the past year, thank
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already it was basically a dead evening proposition here. the question is has that changed since the accusation came to light. there will be poll coming out at 5:00. one of the risks for republican s politically already in trump era the gender gap. it's been a thing in american politics for a long time. it's become a much bigger thing many the era of donald trump. a resent pocent poll among men. when it comes to the president himself, look at this among men. 4 favor. 51 disapprove. among women, a 36-point margin. >> how does this impact how senators vote in some of these battleground states? >> the interesting hinge to go back, if this is where the
cavanaugh nomination was, we'll find out. this polarization was helping this confirmation fight. you had the red state democrats, west virginia, indiana, states where it's 50-50. we saw yesterday, missouri she's come out and said she's against this. it's changed her calculation. >> dit seit seems as if this isf those issues. >> we're going to find out. 5:00. the nbc poll at 5:00 will give us a real indication here. has things changed once this emerged. >> 5:00 today. s >> you got it. thank you so much, steve. tomorrow we'll be talk about the midterms and lots of other i thinks. i'll interview joe biden and jill biden. we'll tack about the supreme
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